#186: TFNATION '22 - BEYOND YOUR WILDEST IMAGINATION pt 1
Join the boys of the APDC plus friends Mike Seibert and UK correspondent Alex Taylor as they review the TFNation panel Extravaganza breaking down the 1st Ron Friedman The Transformers: The Movie script!
It All Tastes Like Beans!!! Passive-Aggressive Theatre!!! Friedman First Draft!!!! TF Nation Foreign Correspondent: Alexis Taylor!!! #1 TFTM Fan: Mike Seibert!!! Snake Bite and Black!!! Vom-Mopping and Carrot Picking!!! Shouts Out!! Car-Kibble!! The Entity!! Rusty Steel!! Rails!! The Fascist Flank Lloyd Wright!! Zumba!!!
21:00 - GENERAL TF NATION TALK, 38:05 - COCKTAIL, 47:01 - SHOUT OUT, 53:19 - BACK TO THE TF NATION PANEL! 1:10:00 - INTO THE FRIEDMAN SCRIPT!
Most popular new character in the TF universe, RAILS. Art by Kris Carter based on designs by Ed Pirrie and Andy Turnbull.
It is NOT the year 2005.
@jimsorenson & @chrismcfeely take you beyond good, beyond evil, beyond your wildest imagination! ClubCon TFNation 2022.
Here is the entire Twitter summary thread on TFW2005 I used as a framework for our episode.
Our cocktail today is one from the Honky Motherland, England, in honor of our guest. I have no idea how I came across this drink. It’s called a:
SNAKEBITE & BLACK
The recipe is very simple.
· 1 part lager
· 1 part hard cider
· 1 dash of blackcurrant cordial or liqueur
o Combine all in a pint glass
o No ice, no garnish
o If you leave out the blackcurrant, it’s just called a Snakebite
It is supposedly illegal to serve in the UK, but that’s not actually true. Even you told me that, Alexis, when I mentioned that would be our drink. There is no law against it. I tried to find out why so many residents believe it’s illegal, and the reason is that so many pub owners tell them it’s illegal. Now, why would they do that? It’s murky, but it seems to boil down to the fact that they seem to believe the type of people who drink this kind of thing are younger, rowdier, more unsavory people, so they just lie. There’s a whole Guardian article interviewing bartenders and asking why it’s pretend-illegal. The answer seems to basically boil down to, “classism.” Apparently a lot of students and “weirdos” drink it.
Having worked behind a bar for many years, I know nothing of chemical reactions, but plenty about people's reactions, and snakebite seems to have the power to intoxicate quicker and more potently than your average brew. In order to avoid the odious task of what we call "vom-mopping" or more descriptively "carrot-picking", certain drinks such as snakebite (with or without black) or over the top cocktails are banned. This ban has the added bonus of keeping out goths and people with dogs on string.
Norm, Manchester
I like that quote in particular because it’s a 2-fer. He admits he doesn’t know what the fuck he’s talking about, and then just mentions people he doesn’t like.
The licensing laws are phrased in terms like "the prevention of crime and disorder", "public safety", "prevention of public nuisance", and the "protection of children from harm". It's up to a licensee to decide what to serve and to whom. I think Trading Standards cover the measures for spirits etc. But nothing is listed as illegal, it's a license to sell alcohol.
Jacey Paul, King's Lynn, Norfolk
Even former President Bill Clinton when visiting the Old Bell Tavern in Harrogate, North Yorkshire in 2001 was told it was illegal to serve when he tried to order one. There are some truly ludicrous theories to go along with this drink as explanation as well, such as that in some chemical reaction that is, impossible, combining cider and lager gets you twice as drunk, twice as fast, as drinking either separately.
In my younger days in Suffolk we believed the additional intoxifying effect was caused because the alcohol in cider is apparently more quickly absorbed by the body then that in beer. When mixed together with the longer term intoxication staying power of the beer you end up with the best (or worst) of both worlds.
Thom Evans, Brisbane Australia
As if, magically, alcohol, which is chemically identical no matter what form it takes, because it’s just ethanol, can be absorbed and processed by the body at different speeds depending on the flavor. And there’s a lot of talk about how super alcoholic it is, but that’s also just not true, because it’s still just beer! Like, a single Gin and Tonic contains about the same amount of alcohol! I read about this shit for a while. Probably because stupid lies, especially those based on ignorance, fake science, and just not liking a group of people infuriate me.
https://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,5753,-15313,00.html
